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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yasvictors,

This forum is here for support and advice. Maybe you are in your best attempt trying to help the girls on here, but comments such as telling people they will take 10 years to recover if they do not change is not warranted. Everyone heals differently and what worked for YOU (even though you were not on the pills in question here) may not work for everyone else. Lindseybee has been on this forum searching for answers and I'm sure she has been searching everywhere to help herself get better, AND she will figure it out, and she will heal just fine. For you to come on here and criticize her choices, and her path of healing is downright rude. You are by no means an expert, none of us are. So unless you have encouraging words or you can learn to phrase your "advice" in a less abrasive manner then maybe you should refrain from posting at all.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yas - I am afraid the process of our healing is not as straightforward as your equation. Some of us have just one or two symptoms, some have few and others have more at the same time. You could be right that one of the equation may help that specific symptom but given the complexity of this Yaz (Yasmin or its generic pills), and background of that person lifestyle - it may not help the other symptoms or may even flare up more underlying symptoms. Honestly, I have seen too many doctors - I either have not met a good holistic doctor or my body is too damaging to heal (?), I wasted too much money and efforts, what I have received is 0 improvement and many craps. How I have found light at the end of the tunnel is with help of my acupuncturist who is also a chinese practitioner, my Blood type diet book and tai chi.

You are right that sometimes we get caught up in the emotions and/or our lifestyles or backgrounds that we lose track of our goals. For my case, I always tell people that I am slow in recovery because I do not have much choices - as much as I needed help, I also need to survive financially. I have 2 young growing children that needs me, work demands, house demands, children demands. Saying and seeing is easy but when you are on your feet - it is not easy. As much as I need to keep my goals, I have limited time for myself. Life is not about me alone. This explains why I am so slow in recovering, to some it may be disheartening but to me, it is already a BIG achievement.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Leni, I always encourage people not to give up on alternative medicine because it has failed for them so far. It doesn't mean that alternative medicine doesn't work. It just means that you have not encountered a system consistent with natural healing. In fact, take your personal time and study it yourself if you have to. (But of course time is money, which makes it unrealistic for many. And for some, it could take very long to reach the realization they want.) Think of trying to find a solution to an equation. Does that mean it doesn't exist, even if a nationally acclaimed person couldn't solve it?

I always say too that part of the problem with what practitioners do is lump all instances and problems together. Each individual case is different. I look at the detail of each case. It is a lot of work, but it's rewarding. As I said to you in the past, I have a conscience, which is why I have not and will not do things even against my financial interest.

I would have said something about the Blood Type approach, but sometimes it's better for people to experience things themselves because they won't believe you when you give them sound advice. I'm guilty of that myself. It's just human nature. There are always AT LEAST two paths to healing in life. One path contains the wrong approach. In the case of Blood Type, many will see improvement in weight loss, for example. But check back with them years later to see the status of their health. If we were to use the blood argument, I think the logical conclusion would be that water alone would cure every illness, since the primary constituent of blood is water. Water is essential in healing, but of course we know it doesn't heal every problem, and sometimes it actually harms. Also ask yourself, if something is a natural process then how do you explain the need for supplementation for some of the blood types according to the author? I don't remember him explaining how our amazing ancestors survived without supplementing on calcium or other supplements.

I could save those same people and many more who are using other approaches to lose weight money with one simple advice (i.e., to completely cut out a particular nutrient from their daily intake). But guess what's going to happen! They'll lose weight and more than what is healthy, and they'll develop health issues but not even realize that it had anything to do with the nutrient they cut out, because it would happen gradually for most before reaching that climatic point of health issues. Thankfully, nature made an accommodation for it with natural mechanisms as a first line of defense against deficiency in the nutrient.

You can stay on the Blood Type recommendations if you wish, but I would advice you to pay attention to your body because you won't likely know its effect on you, except the apparent visible results.

I agree with you about pacing yourself, even if others seem ahead of you. Patience is good for healing in the long-run.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yas - I do not use the Blood Type diet book to lose weight. If you read my posts - I have never had any problem with my weight. It is never an issue as long as I am healthy.

Initially I wasn't sure about this book but there is nothing to lose for a trial. I like how the author giving clear details unlike some - give and reserve without clear specifications. Our blood type is the key to our body's entire immune system. I find the book helps boost my immunity by guiding me which food is beneficial and which is not. With it, it creates the right antibodies to help me fence off my allergies and the energy I need. Of course it mentioned to avoid some food but we can also consume once in awhile, doesnt mean we have to eliminate throughout our life time. It is just a guideline.

The author only recommends supplements to *enhance* the effects of the diet. Of course no one can fully explain how our amazing ancestors on how they survive - can you? Moreover, how can we compare the food we eat now with those of our ancestors? Back then, everything is chemical-free - who needs supplement?

I will rest my case here and will not go further with you.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh please, Leni, don't mistake my initial post as an argument with you. The weight loss was an example. I wasn't saying it (i.e., weight loss example) was applicable to you. In your case and for the purpose you're taking the recommendations made by the author, it may work. My point is that the foundation upon which he places his argument crumbles. It doesn't mean some individuals won't have success stories following his advice. It just means they should be watchful even if it's a year later. That is what I was trying to convey to you. I'm sorry if it was unclear.
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