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Re: Freedom of speech! ??

ArthurPenDragon — Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:11 pm

Author: ArthurPenDragon

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:11 pm

Well put James, but I would like to clarify that the debate over climate change isn't whether or not the climate is changing, but whether or not the change is by human action or not.

Dr. William F. Ruddiman, a lead scientist following human impacts on climate change for over 30 years proposed in one of his last papers before retirement that humans started significantly altering the global greenhouse gas concentrations 8000 years ago with the onset of the agricultural revolution. I recommend reading his paper: "The Anthropogenic Greenhouse Era Began Thousands of Years Ago" Climate Change (61): p261-293, 2003

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

JamesBond@ge — Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:20 am

Author: JamesBond@ge

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:20 am

[n*]Ramsey wrote:

No doubt there! Thats where all the money goes, the space program. And wtf for?? Who gives a rip about Mars? We can't take care of our own planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Yeah, you got that right bruv! Somebody has got their priorites wrong somewhere down the line.

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

JamesBond@ge — Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:13 am

Author: JamesBond@ge

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:13 am

[n*]UGod!* wrote:

And why you say "before we turn into a generation of spoilt brats. "?

Is it because we have good home's ,cellphones,Tv,cars,jobs,safe place's to live,school's we should shut up and agree with anything that has been told to us and shut up about it even if we dont agree.Kinda sound like bribery to me.

I kind of mean that, yeah. I sort of look at things nowadays from a Historical viewpoint and I can't help but to compare people from even 60-70 years ago who had much less of a quality of life and a voice in affairs than we do nowadays.

To tie that in with what Arthur says about his countries Kyoto agreement stance. Here in this tiny country, people as young as 17 can get their driving license and they pretty much expect to drive like it's an entitlement and this countries roads can't take it. I think that driving limits should be upped to 25 in all countries to cut emissions and congestion overnight. Let older people drive as they need it more than we do. Something drastic must be done. Even if we can't all agree that Global Warming is happening, Oil is definitely running out. And when that happens we will go back to living in the Dark Ages, which will be the end of our Civil Liberties anyway.

Of course, our respective Governments wouldn't dare implement something that bold as they would lose $$$$$�� in Tax revenues from car sales, petrol tax etc. Oh, and the all important votes

*Jeez, sorry for the massive ramble

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Timski — Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:22 am

Author: [n*]Timski

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:22 am

Ramsey, if you have not already, explore with your accountant incorporating your business. You can save some self employment tax that way. (Dividends are not subject to self employment tax).
Every little bit helps.

Hey, advice on Nebula! -better keep that to a minimum or I will have to send Fonzi a bill!

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Ramsey — Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:22 am

Author: [n*]Ramsey

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:22 am

[n*]Timski wrote:

[n*]Joe Mamma wrote:

I'm moving to the moon FTW

Sorry Joe, their is a transfer tax on a move to the moon!

No doubt there! Thats where all the money goes, the space program. And wtf for?? Who gives a rip about Mars? We can't take care of our own planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And another thing....lol....Social Security?! Wtf!! Being self employed, I have to pay almost double, than if I worked for a company. I'm talkin' twice as much than state and federal taxes combined! And is it going to be there for me when I get old and need it??? Doubt it!

I could go on for days about all this. It's always really chapped my a$$! Especially the last 7 years from which I've worked for myself. Be easier to just work for someone...the pay all works out in the end.

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Joe Mamma — Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:52 pm

Author: [n*]Joe Mamma

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:52 pm

[n*]Timski wrote:

[n*]Joe Mamma wrote:

I'm moving to the moon FTW

Sorry Joe, their is a transfer tax on a move to the moon!

It wouldn't suprise me

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Timski — Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:32 pm

Author: [n*]Timski

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:32 pm

[n*]Joe Mamma wrote:

I'm moving to the moon FTW

Sorry Joe, their is a transfer tax on a move to the moon!

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Joe Mamma — Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:25 pm

Author: [n*]Joe Mamma

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:25 pm

I'm moving to the moon FTW

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

Murci�lagO — Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:03 pm

Author: Murci�lagO

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:03 pm

[n*]Ramsey wrote:

I don't know much about politics at all. I just don't like getting triple taxed!! Granted, my property taxes on my home are much cheaper than in other places in the country. But here, I also have to pay property taxes on my friggin vehicles every year. And where the hell does all this money go? 5-7% sales tax, property taxes, income taxes, gas tax, tobaco tax...tax for this... tax for that....

It's a bunch of bs if you ask me. Someone is getting paid too much...cause I don't see it going for anything else. The roads in the country suck, schools are sucking, gas prices suck, bla bla bla...

I've been to no other country, but from my life spent here, this county gets suckier and suckier every year!

So yall move to our country! It's a free country!!
But they fail to tell ya that you have to pay dearly for that freedom!

I need a beer!!!

If you want to know where yor many is you have to watch the news...

Iraq, for the war
Tuxedo's of Bush, house, income (well lets say his whole living)
Afghanistan, the war and other military stuff
Israel, well you are paying all their military stuff too

Hmm thats it...

Its kinda having three other countries besides the US...

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

Murci�lagO — Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:59 pm

Author: Murci�lagO

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:59 pm

[n*]Timski wrote:

GANG,

WE CANT CHANGE ANYTHING BY HIDING IN A CORNER. GET PISSED, RANT AND RAVE, DONT BE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AND DO NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.

Cant agree more!!!!!!!

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Savage_MF — Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:02 am

Author: [n*]Savage_MF

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:02 am

Yeah, we're having to pay water charges for something that we've already paid for in our rates. We pay road tax, is that the same as property tax for vehicles?

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Incognito — Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:38 am

Author: [n*]Incognito

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:38 am

[n*]Ramsey wrote:

According to an American colleague the US tax system is very simple because everything is taxable in the US.

A client was send on a assignment to the US and he sold his house in the Netherlands plus some stocks which he sold it with a loss but because of the exchange rate it seems that he didn�t sold it with a loss. The poor guy still had to pay tax over this �income� in the US. Unfortunately they always come for advice when they have already sold everything and have to pay tax

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Ramsey — Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:28 am

Author: [n*]Ramsey

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:28 am

I don't know much about politics at all. I just don't like getting triple taxed!! Granted, my property taxes on my home are much cheaper than in other places in the country. But here, I also have to pay property taxes on my friggin vehicles every year. And where the hell does all this money go? 5-7% sales tax, property taxes, income taxes, gas tax, tobaco tax...tax for this... tax for that....

It's a bunch of bs if you ask me. Someone is getting paid too much...cause I don't see it going for anything else. The roads in the country suck, schools are sucking, gas prices suck, bla bla bla...

I've been to no other country, but from my life spent here, this county gets suckier and suckier every year!

So yall move to our country! It's a free country!!
But they fail to tell ya that you have to pay dearly for that freedom!

I need a beer!!!

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

[n*]Timski — Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:26 am

Author: [n*]Timski

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:26 am

GANG,

WE CANT CHANGE ANYTHING BY HIDING IN A CORNER. GET PISSED, RANT AND RAVE, DONT BE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AND DO NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.

Re: Freedom of speech! ??

ArthurPenDragon — Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:47 pm

Author: ArthurPenDragon

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:47 pm

All governments have their own short comings and inadequacies and they often are exhibited more often than all of the great things the government provides for us.

I am upset with my government for having poor climate change regulations and for not following up on their Kyoto obligations. However, I appreciate universal health care, affordable post-secondary education, and a legal drinking age of 19 (18 in some provinces)

So even at times when the government looks lame, there are multitudes of examples where they are improving our standards of living. Of course, this only applies to developed countries.